THE PRODIGY SAGA CONTINUED....REDUX....ENCORE.... [Prodigy continued to be a main subject of conversation on the net over the past two weeks. Here is a selection of one exchange of vie ws on comp.org.eff.talk.] -- From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) In article <14193.281F5781@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG> Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings) writes: >It's easy to support free-speech issues on "safe" subjects >-- the real test is when it is an unpopular one, or even one >you don't agree with. I agree with this 100%. It's one of the strongest parts of my personal philosophy. But this is not a free-speech issue, so it is not relevant. People do not understand that freedom of the press (and Prodigy is press) has two very important components: a) Nobody can tell you what not to print (freedom from censorship) b) Nobody can tell you what *to* print. (editorial control) Both are important. To insist that Prodigy allow gay/lesbian discussion against their will is not much different from forbidding them from having gay/lesbian discussion if they want it. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of the press. That's no law in *either* direction. -- From: lee@wang.com (Lee Story) In-Reply-To: brad@looking.on.ca's message of 4 May 91 Well sorry, Brad, but it's not clear to many of us that a service like Prodigy is self-evidently "press", as you seem to claim. In the part of the service which presents (publishes) advertisements (mostly!) and Prodigy-initiated or Prodigy-contracted informative articles (rarely), they would seem to deserve the same protections offered to the print and broadcast media. But in their provision of email service they would seem to be merely a by-subscription carrier, and their unpleasant lack of interfaces to other carriers does not disguise that fact. I don't see why the same protections offered to mail and telephone subscribers shouldn't apply. And I don't see why bulletin boards to which subscribers are welcome to contribute shouldn't be considered either (1) simply useful extensions of email, or (2) publishing ventures, but ones in which the subscribers are the publishers and Prodigy remains the carrier. Isn't some scheme like this simple and fair enough to be worth codifying as law, and the added marketability of email and bulletin boards sufficient to encourage commercial services to provide them even if they aren't allowed to control the contents? (By the way, I think the trashy, ad-oriented nature of Prodigy has encouraged many of us to criticize them for practices that would raise few complaints on GEnie, CIS, etc. They may be doing us a real service.) -- From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) I have seen no proof of Prodigy doing anything but charge for their E-mail. They are not press, but an E-mail provider, when it comes to E-mail. But in all the public areas of the system, they are indeed press, and have explicitly said and acted in such a fashion at all times as far as I can tell. I am not sure how other people have gotten any other impression. Prodigy screens everything posted in the public areas. It's 100% edited. How can you consider them anything but press? -- [The discussion continues in comp.org.eff.talk.] Ref: FidoNews 8-31 (05-Aug-1991) http://195.226.109.55/jhassler/wif/doks/fnews/fido831.txt By: Tom Jennings - Brad Templeton - Lee Story