Tom Jennings Fido #1 in Net #... Unfortunately there isn't enough time to give you complete details, as it is now Sunday, the deadline for the newsletter, and I just got back from St. Louis this AM, but I'll at least cover all the major points. A more detailed summary will follow. On Thurs. 11 Apr, Ezra Schapiro and I talked at the McDonnell Douglas Recreational Computer Club (MDC/RCC) in St. Louis. Since we were going to be in town, an informal "FidoNet meeting" was arranged a few weeks ago. The meeting consisted of the St. Louis sysops (Ken Kaplan, Ben Baker, Tony Clark, Jon Wichman, Terry Mueller, Jack H.*), Ezra Schapiro and myself, and was held in Ken K's living room. We talked for 11 hours, and accomplished quite a bit. The topic: what to do about running FidoNet. I hope you have all read the file FIDOHIST.TXT, once published in this newsletter, and available for download from many Fidos. If not, shame on you, drop this and GO READ IT FIRST! An accurate node list is absolutely crucial to FidoNet. Without it, FidoNet is useless. An inaccurate list is worse than no list at all, and verifying all that good stuff takes time. The current rate of growth of FidoNet is about 12 - 15 nodes per week. Please note that from here on, when I refer to "running the net" or "managing the net" I really mean creating, updating and verifying the node list and Fido list, and helping new sysops get their systems up and running, and the ten thousand other little tasks that requires. As far as anything further goes, it's just basically impossible, and completely undesireable. To get right down to it: FidoNet is too large to be managed from a central point; the world wide net is going to be broken into a number of smaller nets. Don't panic yet, it's not that horrible! As a matter of fact, it will be easier and better for everyone, from the big nets such as Southern California to the single systems in out of the way places. Right now, each node is identified with a Node Number. Node numbers can be anything from 1 to 32767. Each node has a unique number of course. In general, this works fine, but it's really not practical for Ken Kaplan in St. Louis to have to give node numbers to sysops in England, Sweden and other far away places. And increasingly, within the U.S. The next version of Fido, 10H, will have a new thing called the Net Number. Nets can be numbered from 1 to 32767, and each net can have 32767 nodes. The idea is to be able to let geographical regions assign their own node numbers, without the horrible problem of duplicate node numbers. The best comparison is the phone company. Instead of trying to make each telephone in the US have a unique number, the country is grouped into area codes; local operating companies can assign individual numbers as they see fit, without worry of having a duplicate in some other part of the country. FidoNet Net Numbers work the same way; to send a message to a node in your own net, all you do is enter its number; to send to another node in another net, you must specify its net AND node number. To do all this, North America is divided into "regions", each with an "administrator" (admin for short). Each region has a unique net number. The admin for that area will pass out node numbers and keep a node list, just like Fido 51 does now. Instead of passing out node numbers, Fido 51 will pass out Net Numbers. There won't be as many nets as their are nodes. They will also take the node lists from each region and compile it into one large consolidated nodelist, and pass that back to each admin for distribution. In some areas there are "local nets", such as Boston, Southern California (SoCal), etc, that are more or less totally self contained nets; these kind of areas will be assigned seperate net numbers, and will generate their own node lists. The admin for, say, California will not be responsible for the SoCal net; the sysops down there will be. This arrangement has all sorts of nice side effects. I'll give examples of some of them here. Regions are such that there aren't more than 15 or so independent nodes (indies, yet another new word) to keep track of; a 15 node node list is pretty easy. One region includes Northern California and Nevada. While it sounds like a big area with a lot of work, it isn't. All the admin for that area has to do is maintain the node list for a fairly small number of nodes. If a local net starts to form, say in San Francisco, they get a Net Number from Fido 51, and they become a seperate Net, totally self contained. The admin no longer need worry about them. Since nodes tend to pop up in metropolitan areas, therefore in clusters, the admins work increases with each node; at some point a net forms, and much of it goes away. The complete node list and other files will be kept at the admin's node; for many systems this will be a local call instead of to St. Louis. One major and wonderful change is what happens when you go to enter a message. Instead of being confronted with a huge, meaningless list of 250+ nodes, Fido lets you list either the Regions or the nodes within a region. For example, to send a message to a node in SoCal, instead of having to list the whole node list, you list the regions first. There will be about 30 regions. When you see "Southern California", you pick it. Now you list the nodes; you get only the nodes in SoCal. There is also a "shorthand" for when you know the exact net/node you want to send to. It's easier to use than describe. National routing as we know it is no longer needed; Fido will automatically route mail to the host of a net. (Routing is still needed inside the net.) By definition, the admin will not need to ever keep any routing information; as soon as one node acts as host for another, they become a seperate net. IN CLOSING ... You are getting this as things are being detailed, and hard data will be passed around as soon as it's complete. We need some volunteers for admins in some areas, and very soon, before this goes into effect. Sorry, but I can't give you the list of regions, I don't have it yet, but somehow it will get out, maybe by mass mailing. I realize this probably opens more questions than it answers, but we need the admins to be able to pass out the information! Some funny coincidences: Fido 10G has a limit of 250 nodes maximum ... so does NODELIST.EXE. Don't worry, it's not fatal, it will just ignore the 251st and higher nodes. (Sorry, new sysops ...) 10H will have a limit of 1000, and something for beyond that as well. There will be new NODELIST.EXE and ROUTEGEN.EXE programs. They will be required. Fido 10H has many improvements. the bugs are fixed, or at least, the obvious ones. Reading FidoNet messages is FASTER. Ref: FidoNews 2-10 (22-April-1985) http://195.226.109.55/jhassler/wif/doks/fnews/fido210.txt By: Tom Jennings